SAFETY FIRST
Very safety and detail oriented. Pre-flight briefing explained everything there was. To my knowledge, this flight school is exceptional in their ability.
Retractable gear. A constant-speed prop. Two hundred horsepower and a checklist that finally punishes sloppiness. The Piper Arrow is where flying stops being a hobby and starts being a job — and it's the airplane the FAA's commercial requirements are built around.
Every airplane before this one forgives you. The Piper Arrow doesn't — and that's the entire point. Put the gear where it doesn't belong and the airplane tells you. Leave the prop coarse on a go-around and the airplane tells you. Nothing about it is dangerous; everything about it is demanding in the way a job is demanding.
That's why it sits exactly where it does in a professional pilot's logbook. Under FAR 61.129, commercial single-engine applicants must log training in a complex, technically advanced or turbine airplane — and a complex airplane means retractable landing gear, flaps and a controllable-pitch propeller. Our Arrow is all three, with the manifold pressure and prop levers to prove it.
Flown well, it cruises around 135 knots on 200 horsepower — genuinely quicker than the Warrior or the Skycatcher, which changes the character of a cross-country. LA to Santa Barbara stops being a project. But speed isn't the lesson. The lesson is that from here on, the airplane expects you to run the flow, hit the numbers and think two minutes ahead.
Gear discipline — a verbal, physical, every-single-time habit. Power management with two levers instead of one, so you learn what manifold pressure and RPM really do to an engine. Approach speeds that punish being fast. And the professional habit that carries into every jet cockpit afterwards: configure early, verify out loud, never assume.
It's also a capable IFR platform. With the Garmin 430 and a stable low-wing airframe, plenty of our instrument students fly their approaches, holds and IFR cross-countries in this airplane, then walk out with a complex endorsement in the same logbook.
We operate a single Arrow — N316EF — maintained in-house here at Van Nuys. One tail means one panel, one set of speeds, one flow. You never lose a lesson re-learning where a switch lives.
Everything that makes the Arrow a complex airplane — and everything the FAA cares about when it's time to sign your logbook.
Complex, by the book: retractable gear + flaps + controllable-pitch propeller. That's the FAA's definition, and this airplane checks all three boxes.
Flying seven days a week out of KVNY — and hangared and maintained in-house between lessons.
Five hours. One logbook entry. A privilege that never expires.
Under FAR 61.31(e) you may not act as pilot in command of a complex airplane — retractable gear, flaps and a controllable-pitch prop — until an instructor has trained you and signed your logbook. That signature is the complex endorsement, and once it's there, it's there for life. No renewal, no expiry, no checkride.
It also matters for your career. FAR 61.129 requires commercial single-engine applicants to log ten hours of training in a complex, technically advanced or turbine-powered airplane. Do that training in our Arrow and the same hours count twice — toward the endorsement and toward the certificate.
A gear-up warning horn is a much better teacher on a simulator than in an airplane. Before you touch the Arrow — or between lessons in it — our Redbird MCX full-motion simulator lets you rehearse gear failures, manual extensions, engine-out approaches and complex checklist flows until the flow is automatic. One hour of your complex endorsement happens right here.
This is a commercial-track airplane. Here are the programs that put you in it — and exactly what it costs to fly.
The certificate that lets you be paid to fly. Complex training in the Arrow is built into the syllabus, alongside the precision manoeuvres — chandelles, lazy eights, eights-on-pylons — the checkride demands.
Private through CFI in one structured path. The Arrow is the airplane in the middle of it — where the habits that airline training assumes you already have actually get built.
The Arrow is one of our three IFR training aircraft. Garmin 430, stable low-wing platform, real approaches into real LA airspace — plus 20 hours on the Redbird MCX.
The package rate is wet — fuel is included, and no surprise fuel surcharge lands at the end of the flight.
We do not rent the Arrow by the hour to walk-in pilots. Its hours sit inside the Commercial and Instrument programs.
Complex time at $179 an hour wet costs an enrolled student no more than our fixed-gear trainers do — which is the reason our commercial students don't ration their complex hours. The figure is per aircraft hour, and it applies once you are enrolled in a course.
Six aircraft types, arranged so each one hands you to the next. The Arrow is step two.
Where the logbook starts. Glass-cockpit Cessna 162, the classic Piper Warrior, or the stick-and-canopy Diamond DA20. Sport, Private and the early instrument work all happen here.
Retractable gear and a constant-speed prop. The complex endorsement, the FAR 61.129 hours, and the professional habits that everything after this assumes you already have.
Two 180 hp engines and counter-rotating props — no critical engine. The multi-engine rating is the line on a resume airlines read first, and it's a 7-day accelerated course here.
Step 4 is the Cirrus SR22 Turbo — 310 hp, FL250, Garmin Perspective, CAPS. See the whole fleet →
The FAA defines a complex airplane as one with retractable landing gear, flaps and a controllable-pitch (constant-speed) propeller. The Arrow has all three. That combination is why it flies differently from a Warrior or a Skycatcher — you're managing gear position, manifold pressure and RPM as separate decisions on every phase of flight.
$999 for the complete program — 5 hours total: 3 hours of flight training in the Arrow, 1 hour on our Redbird full-motion simulator, and 1 hour of ground instruction. On satisfactory completion your instructor signs the FAR 61.31(e) endorsement in your logbook. Most pilots finish it inside a week.
FAR 61.129 requires commercial single-engine applicants to log 10 hours of training in a complex airplane, a technically advanced airplane (TAA), or a turbine-powered airplane. The Arrow satisfies the complex path, and it's the airplane our Commercial students use for those hours. Doing them here means the same flying counts toward both the endorsement and the certificate.
To act as pilot in command of it, yes — FAR 61.31(e) requires a one-time logbook endorsement from an authorized instructor. You can absolutely fly it with one of our CFIs before you have that endorsement; in fact that's exactly what the 3 flight hours in the $999 program are. Once endorsed, it never expires and never needs renewing.
$179 an hour, wet, once you're enrolled in a course — the same package rate as every other single-engine aircraft on our line, retractable gear and constant-speed prop included. Wet means fuel is included. Most people meet the Arrow through the $999 complex endorsement or inside the Commercial program, not by buying hours one at a time.
One — N316EF. It's maintained in-house at Van Nuys Airport alongside the rest of our 12-aircraft line. Because there's only one configuration, every lesson starts from the same panel, the same speeds and the same checklist flow. If the Arrow is down for scheduled maintenance we'll move you to another aircraft or another slot rather than leave you waiting.
Yes. The Arrow is one of the three aircraft in our Instrument Rating course ($11,700), alongside the Piper Warrior and Diamond DA20. It carries a Garmin 430 IFR navigator and is a stable, quick platform for approaches, holds and IFR cross-countries in Los Angeles airspace. Plenty of students finish their instrument rating and complex endorsement in the same airplane.
It cruises at roughly 135 knots on its 200 hp Lycoming IO-360. That's meaningfully quicker than the trainers below it, which changes two things: cross-country legs cover real distance, and you have less time to think on an approach. Both are exactly the pressures commercial and instrument training are meant to introduce.
An FAA Private Pilot certificate and a current medical. You don't need an instrument rating, and you don't need a minimum number of hours beyond your certificate. If you're a U.S. citizen, bring proof of citizenship to your first lesson; if you're not, we'll walk you through TSA flight-training security approval.
Yes — a 1-hour Redbird MCX simulator demo is $189, flown with a certified instructor. It's a genuinely useful way to see how complex procedures and gear failures are taught before you commit to the airplane. See the simulator page →
Los Angeles Flight School operates from Van Nuys Airport (KVNY) — 7900 Balboa Blvd. Suite 108A, Van Nuys, CA 91406. We're open 9 AM to 9 PM, seven days a week, and we serve Encino, Sherman Oaks, Studio City, Calabasas, Thousand Oaks, Simi Valley, Santa Clarita, Pasadena, Canoga Park and the greater Los Angeles area. Call (818) 290-8249.
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The same flight with a passenger in the back seat, briefed and on the intercom. Couples book it; so do parents who would rather watch than hear about it.
One Passenger SeatPiper Warrior Or ArcherHeadsets For Both
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The nicest airplane we put a first-time flyer in. Glass cockpit, air conditioning, leather seats, and a parachute built into the airframe rather than strapped to the person.
Turbocharged Cirrus SR22Air ConditioningWhole-Airframe Parachute
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Two engines, and the airplane instrument-rated pilots move into when they start thinking about a career. Flown from the left seat with a multi-engine instructor.
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SAFETY FIRST
Very safety and detail oriented. Pre-flight briefing explained everything there was. To my knowledge, this flight school is exceptional in their ability.
DISCOVERY FLIGHT
I recently had the chance to take my first-ever discovery flight, and it was nothing short of amazing! From the moment I stepped into the cockpit, the...
SUNSET CIRRUS
It was a great flight! I did a sunset flight and Alex let us fly an awesome. Website was easy to book, and the plane itself was really fun to fly...
FLYING LESSON
We had a great flying lesson with Ralph and came away with a much better understanding of both the aircraft and the principles of flight. Ralph is a...
KIDS LUXURY FLIGHT
I got 2 luxury discovery flights for my kids. I wanted them to have the experience of flying. Our instructor Alex was amazing he made sure they feel...
HONEYMOON SURPRISE
Last minute booking to surprise my wife on our honeymoon. She had no experience with flying and was scared of flying, but Alex was very easygoing and knew...
FULL-MOTION SIM
Amazing flight school in van nuys airport. I have been a student here for the past few months and i could not be happier. I started doing a lot of...
DISCOVERY FOR TWO
I booked a Discovery Flight for Two for my girlfriend's birthday and it was the perfect gift for her. She couldn't have been more excited to get to...
SIMULATORS
Very professional and great airplanes. I love the flight simulators. The pricing is very fair compared to any other flight school
TEEN FIRST LESSON
We gifted our teenage son his first flying lesson. He was so excited! Alex greeted us and gave a reassuring brief that made us all feel comfortable and at...
FIRST-TIME FLYER
Flying is my husband's hobby and I was incredibly anxious and apprehensive about the discovery flight. However, I felt completely safe and at ease once we...
SAFETY FIRST
Very safety and detail oriented. Pre-flight briefing explained everything there was. To my knowledge, this flight school is exceptional in their ability.
DISCOVERY FLIGHT
I recently had the chance to take my first-ever discovery flight, and it was nothing short of amazing! From the moment I stepped into the cockpit, the...
SUNSET CIRRUS
It was a great flight! I did a sunset flight and Alex let us fly an awesome. Website was easy to book, and the plane itself was really fun to fly...
FLYING LESSON
We had a great flying lesson with Ralph and came away with a much better understanding of both the aircraft and the principles of flight. Ralph is a...
KIDS LUXURY FLIGHT
I got 2 luxury discovery flights for my kids. I wanted them to have the experience of flying. Our instructor Alex was amazing he made sure they feel...
HONEYMOON SURPRISE
Last minute booking to surprise my wife on our honeymoon. She had no experience with flying and was scared of flying, but Alex was very easygoing and knew...
FULL-MOTION SIM
Amazing flight school in van nuys airport. I have been a student here for the past few months and i could not be happier. I started doing a lot of...
DISCOVERY FOR TWO
I booked a Discovery Flight for Two for my girlfriend's birthday and it was the perfect gift for her. She couldn't have been more excited to get to...
SIMULATORS
Very professional and great airplanes. I love the flight simulators. The pricing is very fair compared to any other flight school
TEEN FIRST LESSON
We gifted our teenage son his first flying lesson. He was so excited! Alex greeted us and gave a reassuring brief that made us all feel comfortable and at...
FIRST-TIME FLYER
Flying is my husband's hobby and I was incredibly anxious and apprehensive about the discovery flight. However, I felt completely safe and at ease once we...
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Courses & Pricing
Course prices are packages, not hourly rates - the aircraft, your instructor, ground school and simulator time are all in the figure. Van Nuys Airport, KVNY. Financing Available Through Stratus & In-House Plans.
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Five hours in the Piper Arrow is the shortest distance between a private pilot certificate and a professional one. Van Nuys Airport (KVNY) · Open 7 days, 9 AM – 9 PM.